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Recent XBox Bans Not Actually A Million; Lawsuit Possible Anyway

There's been some talk in the past week about a pretty staggering number: one million XBox 360 units banned from XBox Live on account of being modified - presumably, of course, to circumvent those pesky new game prices with the magic of Bittorrent. Not that it ever sounded very wise to tamper with a closed, proprietary game console before logging onto a closed, proprietary online service and assume nothing could possibly go awry.

Well, despite many, many, many, many, many sites reporting that a million accounts had been banned, it sounds like there was a bit too much cross-referencing and not enough fact-checking. XBox Live General Manager Marc Whitten hinted yesterday that the actual number of XBoxes banned last month is much smaller, noting that the popular 'one million banned' statistic essentially came from one site.

Even if it ended up being a false lead, it's easy to see why the appeal of this particular number was pretty tempting for most. Piracy is one of those problems that hovers like a specter, always present and hurting the bottom line of companies who give their all for their projects, but also basically impossible to actually measure. Regardless of who is or isn't a saint when it comes to respecting generations-old IP laws in our digital age, it's both astounding and plausible that a million XBoxes could have been modified to play pirtaed games on XBox Live. PROTIP: That's more XBoxes than the population of Alaska!

Regardless of whethery they number into the millions or have their own senators, the mass of folks who recently found themselves banned from XBox Live may yet get their comeuppance, in form of a class-action suit. Hit the jump to read more!

US law firm AbingtonIP has put a form on their website asking the general populace for details on their particular situations if they themselves have found their consoles banned from Live, as well as whether they've received a prorated refund from Microsoft for the amount of months of Gold account service that had been purchased.

Of course, anyone who's paused during one those easily-clickable End User License Agreements has probably seen plenty of harsh language about how Microsoft is well within their rights to ban your account, stop giving you service, negate your marriage rights, and kick your dog--all at any time and without warning. This is, one would think, one of those sad facts of living in a world of corporations and legalese: going against The Man will mean they can have their way with you, because they have lawyers and you don't.

Which is exactly why it's interesting that AbingtonIP seems to be taking the first steps to enact a class action lawsuit against Microsoft for just such an attitude. From their perspective, Microsoft basically stole customers' money to the tune of between $8 and $50 for every single Gold account that was banned. Even if it wasn't a million accounts stacking up, that's still a whole lot of paid time for which MS happily received the money and then cut the cord. Part of the lawsuit may also point out the facts that Microsoft essentially waited until around the time the biggest multiplayer games were releasing, thus ensuring more bannable accounts were racking up paid time in Gold status, before banning them en-masse without a refund; and the little detail that, unless there's some sort of disc-imprinting technology MS has perfected, it's actually impossible to prove that someone with a modded console was truly using it to violate copyright and thus deprive anyone of their licensing fees.

Again, while it's definitely easy to laugh and say, 'you done messed up' to anyone who somehow thought it was a good idea to take a modded system online, the details involved do point to some maneuvering on Microsoft's part that may be violating the good faith of those who still paid for their online service. And it's not entirely test in our legal system whether EULAs are necessarily binding agreements - generally, they are, but if a court thinks there's enough unreasonable or greedy action on the part of the license holder, the contract suddenly gets a lot less powerful.

Or, to put it differently: just because someone big puts in writing that all grass in now lavender doesn't mean it's true. Nor does it mean they won't still hold a candlelight vigil and a tribunal to ensure the voices of proudly-green grass are still heard.

In any case, class-action lawsuits tend to take years to get rolling, which means the next time we hear progress on whether the modders and the lawyers who love them actually have a case to present will be around the same time the PlayBox 4 comes out.

7 Comments

Bryce said:

I personally don't think the pirated software users should be reimbursed for their losses, considering that they don't spend ANY of that money on the games themselves. $8 to $50 versus what would be $50 per game times whatever the attach rate is (which I assume substantially higher for pirate software users).

This class action speak just seems like an immature means of rebuttal to me. Honestly, they want Microsoft to pay back the only thing they aren't stealing from them? I call BS.

scarritt said:

Bryce said everything I wanted to say much better than I ever could have.

JeffSpender said:

For the millionth time, modding does not equal pirating.

kybarsfang said:

The important thing though: does modding violate the TOS of XBOX Live? I'm not sure if it does, but if it actually does, then the class action will probably fail.

KittenMittens said:

I'm sorry, faePuck, but I found this article really frustrating to read. I wish you had just given us the facts. Metaphors, slang, etc...they're great to add a sense of lightness and personal insight into your writing, but when you clog every sentence with them the information gets lost.

For example...

"Or, to put it differently: just because someone big puts in writing that all grass in now lavender doesn't mean it's true. Nor does it mean they won't still hold a candlelight vigil and a tribunal to ensure the voices of proudly-green grass are still heard."

...this just makes my head spin. I mean, I think I know what you're trying to say, but it's absolute gibberish.

faePuck said:

KittenMittens, thanks for your feedback! I know some of the sentences I penned here were a bit belabored, and I do apologize. I usually have enough time to write and edit for clarity, but unfortunately on this day I'd run into an emergency and had much less time to proof myself than normal before the publish. And, frustratingly, half-decent metaphors actually seem to avoid falling into your lap when you're in a rush...

Not promising I'm only going to stick to the facts--any old site can just regurgitate and rephrase press releases--but I'll continue to keep up my desire to put together items that are fun but also readable. Thanks for the understanding! :)

Mochicub said:

say what you guys want about modding =/= pirating, but the truth is that the LARGER majority of the users out there mod their consoles to pirate their games.

if you were a homebrewing software on your xbox for your own fun and not pirating, then get two xbox's; one for live use w/ legit games and another one to do whatever you want with it. no complains about being banned since you got a second xbox, right?

the ones who don't care about spending $$$ to buy 10 xbox to mod and break are the true modders. those who buy one to pirate games, get banned and refuse to buy a second one? it's obvious.

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