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Is Capcom Trying To Thwart Used Game Sales?

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The internet is alight with speculation that Capcom is trying to quash used game sales. Apparently, owners of Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D will be unable to erase save files and unable to reset them, meaning that once you've beaten the game that's all she wrote. Use up the remaining save files and the game really is over. In Japan game stores will pay less than ten dollars US for a used copy of the game, and the no-reset feature is confirmed to be included in the American and UK releases of the game as well.

Needless to say, this isn't sitting well with a lot of people. According to some, Capcom is "spitting in the face of second-hand games" and "[stepping on] classic gamers." The argument is that Capcom, which makes no money off the second-hand game market, sees the no-reset feature as a way to prevent sales of used copies of the game, strong-arming gamers in to buying new copies. But where would this trend lead us? What about classic gamers in the future...won't it be hard to find copies with no saves? What about players who like to replay games? What about players who want to get some money back on games they didn't like by reselling them to a retailer? Does this mean you only get so many chances to play through a game that you bought? What does that say about ownership of video games?

What do you guys think?

14 Comments

Arem said:

Fuck you, Capcom. I should be able to delete my saves if they take up room on my HDD.

CPFace said:

Brings down the resale price, boosts the unsealed eBay price.

JustTheTrick tm said:

I applaud Capcom for trying something to counter-act the game stores trends in focusing on the second hand trade rather than brand new. If this is their path forward then demos are a must.

Chaz said:

This is absolutely ridiculous. I will not purchase any game that does not allow me to delete saves. If Capcom implements this in all their upcoming games, I guess I'm not purchasing any Capcom titles again.

Scizzy said:

I like to replay my games various times through the years. If this is how Capcom is going to handle things they can kiss my money goodbye.

You guys are blowing this out of proportion by a lot. There is no "beating the game." That's like saying you can beat Geometry Wars 2. There is no "all she wrote," because the game is designed to be replayed match after match. There is no story, there is no new game plus. There is no need to save anything other than high scores, which really aren't drastic. This has absolutely nothing to affect 'replay value' or 'resell value.' It's not a thing, and you people are just blowing up nothing.

What would you delete? Unlocking Wesker, provided he's even locked to begin with? That's like saying "I can't play this copy of Street Fighter IV, there's too many unlocked characters." Please note that the version of SFIV for the 3DS had all characters and stages unlocked at the start.

This is not some trend to keep people from being able to replay the story in future Resident Evil games (like, hm, Revelations?) or any other games. This is not the kind of game where there even IS a new game plus.

This is just insane, and I really would expect better from people who write about this stuff for a living.

Also? If you're worried about 2nd hand gamers, do you mean to say you don't want a digital future where you can't trade them in or buy second hand?

Silver Phoenix said:

It's the business practice that is alarming. Regardless of this being the first game to implement it, it could appear in more games going forward.

Capcom is notoriously greedy and half-asses their releases to fish more money out of peoples' pockets. If you take away the choice of deleting a file with only a limited number available people are obviously not going to like it.

You might find that this practice may actually bring down the retail cost of the game as people don't buy it new.

SplashChick said:

Capcom has just lost my business permanently. These business practices are unacceptable. They've proven time and time again that they lost all the talent they had with game development. I don't even remember the last Capcom title I fully enjoyed and was glad I paid for. It's all trash, their business practice is trash, they have no respect for consumers, and I will not tolerate it any longer.

Congrats, Capcom, you are now a worse developer in my eyes than Ubisoft and Activision.

The worst part of all of this is that people are going to go stupid over something so trivial and non-consequential (because I promise you this isn't going to show up in other games, like everybody is panicing) and you know who's going to get hurt? Mega Man Legends. A game I've waited over 13 years for, and you people are going to mess it up for me with this nonsense. Thanks bunches.

CPFace said:

You guys are blowing this out of proportion by a lot. There is no "beating the game." That's like saying you can beat Geometry Wars 2. There is no "all she wrote," because the game is designed to be replayed match after match. There is no story, there is no new game plus.

My apologies. I care not a wit for Resident Evil, so I haven't been paying attention to this game. I had assumed that it was a normal, linear adventure game -- the idea of preventing the player from restarting would have been absurd. An arcadey game that doesn't track much more than high scores seems like a better fit for the idea.

Henshin A Go Joe said:

"You guys are blowing this out of proportion by a lot. There is no "beating the game." That's like saying you can beat Geometry Wars 2. There is no "all she wrote," because the game is designed to be replayed match after match. There is no story, there is no new game plus."

Still, there is a lot of stat tracking in Mercenaries, including best times, accuracy, and a set of characters to unlock. If your stats do not get erased, it could be kinda unfun to beat the score of the cart's previous owner. Not a deal breaker.

None of this is really a deal breaker. Companies have to combat piracy, and cart piracy on the DS has always been big business for modders. Capcom may be using a heavy hand, but it's not unexpected. The truest, best solution would be purely digital releases with online registration of that users unique user serial. It'll be a hell for information.

Capcom could have done a little nicer, but there's no sense in swearing off all their games. If Capcom's actions are seriously, explosively evil...you'll be boycotting a lot of companys, for similarly goofy reasons.

ZelGreywards said:

While I could see this being implemented for a game like RE:Mercenaries or SFIV, I don't think that Capcom could get away with something like this with Mega Man Legends. Many people (myself included) enjoy playing through a game like that more than once. Preventing a user from starting a new game once all save files are used up would be ludicrous.

That being said, you couldn't manually delete save files in games like Final Fantasy IV (II US) and VI (III US) and simply had to overwrite them when you started a new game. How would Capcom prevent something like that?

Dandy Kong said:

As an aside - this is not the first time something like this happens: when you beat Jet Force Gemini on the N64, you'd get a different opening screen and there is no way to get back to the original.

Also stuff that was unlocked (extra characters for multiplayer, cheat codes) couldn't be reverted, IIRC.

Jikuu Moogle said:

I think the measurements are retarded, only to cockblock 2nd-hand games, if you don't want your games to end up in a 2nd-hand bin, put effort in releasing something thats worth hanging on to *heres glaring, at you 80% of the game bizz*

I wish we could just go back to the time where there was passion in the releases and not just marketing strategies :(

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