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Video: Wootini's Video Podcast #78

I start off with a little digression on some recent movies before steering the topic back onto the focus of this week, which is that I feel that games should be fun, and when the stop being fun, you should stop playing them. Then I ask for a 3DS recommendation. Also, please ignore my skin tone as I'd been at the beach all afternoon. Also also, please ignore my penchant for weird cartoon voices this week. You'd think I was auditioning for work as a voiceover actor. Or that I was drunk. Neither of which are true. Promise!

6 Comments

TJ said:

I really enjoyed and agreed with your "Games should be fun" rant, Wootini. There are a few games I stopped playing because I lost interesting. FFX and XIII are both examples of this. I eventually beat the former, but the latter, I know I'm close, but I've lost interest. When combat is sit back and press A/X for over 40 hours, it wears you out.

Jalk said:

About Tales of the Abyss : I just got it the other day and so far, I've got mixed feeling about it. First of all, I never played a "Tales of" game before, so I didn't know what to expect.

My impression is that, whereas it is a very traditional RPG, which all that includes (light party management, a wide world to visit, multiple sidequests...), it is also very bland. It has this anime feel - which is fine with me - but it's like the took different bits of different animes and crammed it together in a game. I got the feeling that the creators of the game thought "OK, these are the elements that work best in other RPGs / animes, so it should work great here !"
Sadly, the whole game lacks a sense of unity, and I found very hard to become attached to the characters (which is a huge part of why I play RPGs).

The story picks up after several hours of gameplay (about 5 I'd say). Right now, I find it mildly fun but it lacks this epic feels I'm usually looking for in games.

The battle system is an active one... If you ever played Star Ocean, it's very similar.

Hope that helped !

If you're into SRPG, did you try Devil Survivor : Overclocked ? I found it very enjoyable. The story is very well-done, the game system is simple yet efficient, and it's not excruciatingly difficult. :)

Dns said:

First: sunscreen, Wootini!

Second: I have purchased Tales of the Abyss, and I like it. I think the story is a little gibberish-y ("To solve the magic problem, we need the Macguffin!"), but the game itself is fun. It did take a while to get accustomed to the battle system (I'm not used to real-time combat in RPGs) and the characters, but the voice acting and music are both great. And it's a BIG game! I've played over 50 hours of it according to my Activity Log, and I'm still not done. Well worth the investment if you ask me.

Kevin said:

I played Heroes of Ruin as my most recent handheld. I live with my little brother, so playing through it with him was lots of fun, but it's a pretty terribly made game. The four classes in the game are pretty fun, but there are only four with not a lot of expansion. Although I have to say I really enjoyed the Vindicator class - strong offense with a focus on healing magic. And it is ridiculously short. My brother and I beat the game three levels shy of the level-30 cap in about 12 hours. And the "daily DLC" are challenges that aren't really worth the effort. I'd save your money.

In fact after playing Heroes of Ruin for a couple days, I felt wistful to go back and play Skyrim (which is a thousand times better than HoR). Which I am now doing because I spent way too long doing sidequests and stopped the Main Quest right after I learned how to Shout.

Tales of the Abyss was the game I played before Heroes of Ruin, oddly enough. I really enjoyed Tales of Symphonia on the Gamecube, so I figured it'd be a good fit. But the characters are pretty much the same, with some swapped genders. The story is just broad strokes of tepid drama that is overwrought at the best of times. Every Tales game has a weird thing that powers their version of magic, and this is no exception (and nothing original). However, if you can overlook the terribly JRPG quality (and I mean that as a mild insult), it can actually be a bit easy fun.

And if you do get it, like Jalk said, it gets better a little while into the story (and the main character improves, thankfully, because I spent way too many hours wanting to punch him in the face).

Wootini said:

Dns, I DID wear sunscreen! It's just difficult to constantly reapply when I can't bring myself to get out of the water!

And thanks for the opinions on Tales. Never having played one before, I guess I wouldn't be bothered by any similarities. And being a traditional, cliche JRPG is kind of what I'm looking for right now...

SadClown said:

Thanks Wootini! I also appreciated your "games should be fun" manifesto. I'm currently alternating between two grindy JRPG's, "Xenoblade Chronicles" and "Final Fantasy XIII-2," that started out fun (open worlds! subquests!) and grew tedious (high maintenance battle systems, annyoing characters/plot).

I feel obligated to beat at least one of them before I move on to a new console game, but am playing them less and less as I keep getting stuck at bosses that require 5-10 levels of grinding to overcome.

On a recent plane ride I played a PSP port of "Phantasy Star IV," a turn-based RPG from 1993, and was thrilled by how well paced and addictive the turn based combat was. Some of the high-maintenance systems of the newer games feel too much like math homework.

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